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  Dogs & Cats, Living Together: Times Launches Wikitorials****
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Well, the grand experiment has begun. The L.A. Times just posted its first "wikitorial," encouraging its readers to log on and completely rewrite its editorial views on the war in Iraq.

At first glance (just after 8 a.m.), it's hard to tell whether the thing has even been touched yet. But I'll go out on a limb and say that "The Bush administration should be publicly charged and tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity," doesn't quite sound like LAT writing.

Once you dive into the edit history you can see that more than a dozen people have made edits ...
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The wiki platform looks like a strong one, with tabs for reviewing edit history, adding style or links and even inserting mathematical formulas.

What's nice is that if you drill down in the history page, you can view the progress of edits by every single person who has logged in and touched the text, including the one that Richard Rushfield made to what appears to be the earliest version in the wiki, by Michael Novick just after 2 a.m..

You can also compare versions to see what people have changed.

On an interface level, this is pretty geeky, and may appeal only to people with a fetish for copy editing.

But at the page level, it's invigorating to watch. And a hell of a lot more engaging, informative and interactive than the frighteningly lame abdication of editorial voice that editorial director Michael Kinsley published on Thursday's op-ed pages - a comparison of the editorial writers' commutes.

Here's the editorial as it stands now.

It's interesting to note that anyone who claims to be age 14 or older can edit the page, but so far no one has inserted porn links, images, spam or phrases to the tune of "George W. Bush is a poopy-doody-pants."

But the day is young.

UPDATE: I made a small edit, but as of a few minutes later, it still has not appeared. This tells me that human editors are monitoring this closely, and filtering the edits to ensure no one makes a complete mockery of it by surrounding the text with BLINK tags.

Five minutes later, ah, there it is. Turns out my edit was overwritten by someone else filing an edit at the same time.

I also just discovered this charming note on the EDIT page: Please note that all contributions to LATWiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here."

Another update: 8:56 a.m. - it finally happened - someone completely erased the version that was there and replaced it with his own editorial. Oddly, his position still agrees in general with the Times stance.

Update, 12:15:
It takes a little stumbling around, but here's the original editorial authored by Times staffers.

Also, Jimbo Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, has found a way to launch a Counterpoint editorial, which doesn't set much store by using the wiki format to rewrite editorials in the first place:
It seems impossible for someone who disagrees with the central thrust of the original editorial to both respect the intentions of the authors, and also to have a voice. So I'm proposing this page as an alternative to what is otherwise inevitable, which is extensive editing of the original to make it neutral... which would be fine for Wikipedia, but would not be an editorial. --Jimbo Wales 12:03, 17 Jun 2005 (PDT)
Hmmm. Do I really get to hack anyone else's contribution?
I guess so. In any case, the only comment I'll make is that the current administration takes no responsibility for anything bad and anything good they claim credit for. In this they are much like corporate America, which, with their K street minions, they are much alike. In this America, the powerful make mistakes and those beneath suffer.
Also, Dailykos has jumped into the act.

One thing's for certain - the Times is reaping a lot of ad impressions.

Final update on this post:

11:50 a.m. - "Benguigui" appears to have restored earlier version that someone had replaced only with the words "F*CK USA."

7:35 p.m. - One William Goldsmith posts A Veteran's Comments (Vietnam, Desert Storm, Operation Enduring Freedom).

Could this be the final post? The definitive word?

Nope. 7:49 p.m. - Typaldos edits it further with the comment, "removed ridiculous paragraph."

From a poet's point of view, it's like surf on the shore, the sound of opinions clashing. Rhythmic. Solid. Cleansing.

From a dead-tree devotee's point of view, it's a godawful mess, good Christ, what are they thinking with this internet wiki-wacky thing? It's as though they haven't the courage to write their own editorials any more, they'd rather throw the whole thing to the rabble!

From my point of view (digitized ex-ink-stained wretch who believes firmly in the Web as the future of news and human communication):

It has attracted what appear to be more than 300 edits of one kind or another, if I'm reading the PHP-driven story ID number correctly.

It works.

It's engaging.

And for a first-stab public beta of an idea that nobody in the print or online world has had the balls to try before, it's valuable, successful, and pretty wicked cool.

One more update:

11:17 p.m. So I lied. I couldn't resist looking again: The latest edition, version 371, includes this bold (and true) paragraph:
American media—including this paper—were delelict: they provided an uncritical echo chamber for government rhetoric prior to this war, and barely reported the many prophetic fervent arguments against it. Media organizations bear a heavy responsibility for the outcome of this ill-advised imperial adventure, and should engage in some serious soul-searching; as well as implement changes to allow for dissenting voices to be heard, foster true investigative journalism, and improve standards of newsworthiness. The public must be better informed of issues that actually matter in our world, and the steady stream of propaganda provided by government officials must be ruthlessly fact-checked and exposed when dishonest.
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